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Tiger5
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After reading Olga Greenlaw's book, I'm wondering if, or why not, her diary/notes have ever been published. There is an A.V.G. unit history for sale on ebay privately published by Pawley in 1945. Could this contain Olga's writings? On another Tiger site, somebody named Van Zandt claims to have her actual diary, but it's hard to navigate. This needs to get written, if it's not already. Does anybody know where her diary can be viewed?
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Olga Greenlaw was the wife of AVG Exec. Officer, Harvey Greenlaw.  Olga was directed by Col. Chennault to begin her AVG group diary/record on 8 Dec 41 after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and American facilities on Oahu, Hawaii.  In the AVG Flying Tigers Association we have copies of her diary.

Also, her book entitled "The Lady and the Tigers" was published in 1943 and is Olga's personal story of her experiences with the AVG.  Definitely a spicy side of the heroic AVG Flying Tigers story.


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Tiger5
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Can they be viewed online? If not, where are they physically located? The "A.V.G.  Flying Tigers Association", is this a brick and mortar museum or similar facility?
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aaatripp
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Excellent question, thanks!

It's an association of honorably discharged members of the AVG and their families.  While we do not maintain our own museum there are many museums with displays and collections all over the world dedicated to the AVG Flying Tigers.  See this link:

    http://www.flyingtigersavg.com/index.php/avg-displays

We are again working to upgrade our AVG website and we'll work on making contents of Olga's AVG war diary available to the public.




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BenL
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Sorry, I misunderstood but it was her personal diary that was reportedly burned. Possibly truths to her "dating" some of the pilots?
Word is that it was burned per her wishes after she passed.

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LydiaRossi
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I know there are copies around. I have not heard of the original being burned. I don't know why she would do that.
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aaatripp
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Frankly, it was not Olga's property to do with as she pleased.  She was tasked by Col. Chennault to keep the group diary in the role of Historian. Thus, this diary became a matter of AVG documents.

As for her personal diary----that could very well have been the basis for her book.

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Quote From : aaatripp June 17, 2016, 3:06 pm
Frankly, it was not Olga's property to do with as she pleased.  She was tasked by Col. Chennault to keep the group diary in the role of Historian. Thus, this diary became a matter of AVG documents.

As for her personal diary----that could very well have been the basis for her book.


This thread has confused three "diaries."

Mrs Greenlaw kept the Group War Diary from December 8, 1941, to about the middle of April 1942, when it was taken over by Doreen Davis, who also retyped and edited some of the early entries. So there are actually two GWDs. Greenberg took a carbon of HER version home with her and used it in writing her book. As I recall, it was "loaned" to the writers of the army history of CBI and never returned; I think it is now on microfilm at Maxwell AFB.

Mrs Davis's GWD stayed with Chennault and is included (perhaps  in pieces) in the Chennault Papers at Stanford, microfilm copy at the Library of Congress.

The third diary is Mrs Greenlaw's own diary, which she quotes at length in her book. When she died, it was apparently her wish that it be burned. She was survived by two sisters, Alicia and Beatriz. Alicia believed that it had indeed been burned, but when Beatriz died in turn, the diary surfaced among her possessions. It was sold at auction on eBay and bought, I have been told, by a collector in Hawaii who has not made it public.
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Thanks for this update to clarify for our AVG Forum.


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Good research Mickelman....thank you.
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