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chuckbaisden
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:xd: PJ Perry and I hired a bycycle rickshaw with driver one nght and
he pedaled the the both of us from the Toungoo R.R. Station to our field at Keydaw. Neither PJ nor I were feeling any pain and there was  one pooped driver who really earned  his rupee award.
Five miles or a little farther would be a pretty close estimate.

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aaatripp
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cousin of Maax C. Hammer, Jr., AVG 22Sep41 RIP
OK, thanks for your help Chuck.  I wonder if any of the original Keydaw bldgs. are
still intact/in use at the "Taungoo Airport"?

Tripp


Edited by aaatripp : June 15, 2010, 11:08 pm

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Niece of John D. Armstrong
I believe that our wonderful friend in Burma answered that question for the Armstrong, Hammer and Atkinson families.  If you like, I will resend you her narrative describing that airfield as it is in present day. 

The Armstrong family is still searching for information and assistance beyond what JPAC has offered us (DNA samples included) on locating our uncle's grave at St. Lukes cemetery in Toungoo with the hopes of repatriating his remains.


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aaatripp
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Thank you.  Please resend info about the airport.
Tripp


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As you might remember, I will not divulge the name of the individual who has sent us information from Burma.  So, you may expect to receive the information via your private email address.  Please allow me some time to locate the particular email from my archives.

The Armstrong family has provided you with much information about Maxx Hammer through our research including our success with JPAC.  We hope you will reciprocate as you learn more about the burial sites.  Thanks.

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There were approx. 9 experienced P-40 pilots recruited by Skip Adair
out of the 8th Fighter Group at Mitchel Field, NY.  Does anyone know
any of their names? Or their squadrons?

Latest info. indicates my cousin, Maax Hammer, was one of the P-40
pilots from the 8PG at Mitchel Field, NY.  Parker Dupouy, Ed Liebolt,
Peter Atkinson, Dave Harris, Neil Martin, Arvid Olson, Duke Hedman, Bob
Brouk, Bob Little & Charles Sawyer may all have come from the 8th
(although Adair recruited 9 pilots, which is less).  Erik Shilling had
been with the 8th PG much earlier than spring '41.

Chuck Baisden, Joe Poshefko & Ed Stiles are all from the 8thPG---any more info
from Chuck, Joe or Ed on the 8PG pilots recruited into the AVG?  Thanks.

Tripp

Edited by aaatripp : June 15, 2010, 11:10 pm

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aaatripp
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Noel Bacon's diary entry for 22  Sep 41 describing Maax's crash.
Tripp

(diary photo courtesy of Noel R. Bacon grandson)


Edited by aaatripp : June 16, 2010, 8:28 am

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Noel Bacon's diary entry for 24  Sep 41 describing Maax's burial.
Tripp

(Jo, thank you very much for your help!)

(diary photo courtesy Noel R. Bacon grandson)


Edited by aaatripp : June 16, 2010, 8:29 am

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(photo courtesy of Joe Poshefko collection)

CORRECTION NOTES:  this is the crash site of John Dean Armstrong, 8 Sep 41, following the middair collision with Gil Bright during a mock dogfight.  Photos of Maax Hammer's crash site can be found on p. 46 in Frank Losonsky's book FLYING TIGER:  A CREW CHIEF'S STORY.


Edited by aaatripp : November 4, 2014, 1:17 pm

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aaatripp
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cousin of Maax C. Hammer, Jr., AVG 22Sep41 RIP
Thanks to many friends for their invaluable assistance in helping me to accumulate
info. about my cousin, Maax, over the past 9 years.  The remaining questions I'm
still pursuing are:

1.  Maax's time at the Univ. of Mo. (after Washington Univ. and before LSU)
2.  His activities in the 8th Pursuit Group at Langley Field Va., and later Mitchel
    Field NY.  Also, which squadron was Maax in?  (NPRC records in St. Louis are
    very limited and do not contain answers)

Any additional help always gratefully appreciated.
Tripp


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Which Univ. of MO campus did he attend? I graduated from Univ of MO-Rolla in 1999 and worked on campus for a few years. I still know some people there if that is where he went. I could ask some questions.
Jen

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Thanks to many friends for their invaluable assistance in helping me to accumulate
info. about my cousin, Maax, over the past 9 years.  The remaining questions I'm
still pursuing are:

1.  Maax's time at the Univ. of Mo. (after Washington Univ. and before LSU)
2.  His activities in the 8th Pursuit Group at Langley Field Va., and later Mitchel
    Field NY.  Also, which squadron was Maax in?  (NPRC records in St. Louis are
    very limited and do not contain answers)

Any additional help always gratefully appreciated.
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aaatripp
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Thanks for your kind offer, Jen.  Since my last post in June, I've had further contact
with the schools.  Washington Univ. in St. Louis records show Maax transferring to
Univ. of Mo. in 1936.  However, LSU (which he entered 2/4/38 shows no credits or
attendance at U. Mo.  Most likely he did not attend U. Mo. in any location.

This brings up the question of what Maax did from mid-36 to Feb. 1938....possibly work in the town of Cairo, Illinois where his father had moved following Maax's graduation from E. St. Louis HS in Illinois.  Maax's mother had died in Dec. 1930 and Maax Sr. remarried sometime in the late 30s (to Jehn).
Thanks.
Tripp


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jenholik
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Maybe you know this, but Southern IL Univ has marriage records at IRAD (IL Regional Archives Depository) from 1819-1944. You can call or write to them asking for a record search to see if he married in Alexander County. They also hold some Probate and Will records if you this Maax Sr.'s first wife died in that county.

Illinois Regional Archives Depository

    University Library

    Western Illinois University

    1 University Circle

    Macomb, IL 61455

    Telephone: (309) 298-2716

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Thank you for this information.  I have contacted them and await records.
Tripp


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NOTE:  the photo above of an aircraft crash site is that of John Armstrong on 8 Sept 41.  It is not of my cousin Maax Hammer's crash on 22 Sept 41.

There are photos of both crash sites in the book "Flying Tiger - A Crew Chief's Story" by Frank S. Losonsky (CEO of the Flying Tiger Association).  The one above is clearly noted as John Armstrong's crash site.  There are two photos of Maax's crash site in the book.  You can see the marked difference in the condition of the wreckage between the two crashes.  Erik Shilling's book "Destiny" has accurate info about Maax's crash and the condition of the wreckage, as he was the onsite crash investigator when they made it to the crash site late the night of 22 Sep.

Tripp


Edited by aaatripp : November 4, 2014, 1:21 pm

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