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JimBates
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I'm looking for additional biographical information about Ed Liebolt.  All I've been able to uncover is that is was from Camden,
Ohio, graduated from Miami University in Ohio, flew with the Army, and then
flew with the AVG's 1st Pursuit Squadron before going missing in February
1942. 

I'm also looking for any information about "his" aircraft.  There is a picture of it in the Osprey Aces book, but it only shows his name under the cockpit.  There is another shot of it online in service with the 74 FS, but again it only shows the cockpit area.  Anyone know which side number it carried

Thank you for any help,

Jim Bates
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Robert M. Smith's book "With Chennault in China - A Flying Tiger's Diary" contains a listing of the first 100 P-40Bs which includes AVG #, Sqdn. # (side # on the fuselage), assigned pilot, Curtiss Seq. #, Curtiss Ser. #, Date Delivered to Toungoo, Date Test flown, and name of the Delivery Pilot.

No a/c is listed as being assigned to Ed Leibolt. However, he did deliver two a/c to Toungoo from Mingladon Airdrome, near Rangoon, after assembly & testing:

  1.  P-8143  #10    Farrell's a/c    777  15869  10/7    10/2
  2.  P-8154  #97    Foshee's a/c  808  15900  11/17  11/14

Edward J. Leibolt, a P-40 pilot from the US Army Air Corps, is credited with 0.25 aerial victory and left San Francisco on Thursday, July 24, 1941 aboard the Dutch liner Bloemfontein, arriving in Rangoon on September 15, reaching the AVG base at Kyedaw Airfield near Toungoo later that night.

Charlie Bond's book indicates that Leibolt did not return from a mission over Rangoon on 2/25/42.

Hope this helps you.

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To follow up on one of your comments, which has me puzzled:

"There is another shot of it online in service with the 74 FS"

Leibolt was with the First Pursuit Squadron (the Adam & Eves) and he & his a/c were lost in late Feb. '42, before the 74FS of the 23FG (CATF) came into existence. 

I'm suspect of the accuracy of this online shot to which you refer.

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Tripp,

The aircraft with Liebolt's name painted on it survived its time with the First Pursuit Squadron, moved on to the Third Pursuit Squadron, and then was operated by the 74FS.  (And I am no leaning toward "his" aircraft being #22)  Like most squadrons in combat, pilots flew whatever was available, and I assume the Liebolt was lost in a different aircraft.  I think it was very common for AVG pilots not to be flying "their" aircraft.

You can see the pics here:

http://www.warbirdforum.com/oldavg.htm

Jim
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Thanks for clarifying the situation.  The photo referenced confirms Leibolt, then 3rd
Pursuit Sqdn, then pilot Turner of the 74FS.  Your comments about "Turner's dilemma" are spot on, with nice followup of 2nd photo and comments from Turner's
son. 

This certainly demonstrates how the pilots used different a/c, especially due to rotating schedules, maintenance requirements, etc. 

Thanks for posting this.
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Edward Leibolt was reported as missing Feb. 26, 1942. According to the AVG they never found him. But if you read "Flying Tigers" by Russell Whelan, 1944 edition, page 164, it reads, ". . . Weeks later Chinese searching parties found the body of an American pilot at point one hundred miles from where a Tomahawk had crashed. Positive identification was not possible." Upon reading the AVG Diary it say that Bob Neale and R. H. Smith stayed in Rangoon to search for Leibolt (At this time the AVG was abandoning Rangoon) Rangoon is a little over 150 miles from Chiang Mai. So the body they found could possible be Leibolt’s. In fact I’m pretty sure.
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I also believe they found Leibolt.
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25th February, Ed Leibolt.....Will be thinking of you Ed!!!
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Do you know Ed date of birth?


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December 20 1916,  Dayton Ohio

Graduated Camden High School ,Camden Ohio  May 16,1934
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Thank you marathondon


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Ed Leibolt  ,  MIA  70 years ago,  but not forgotten.
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That's a long time to wonder what happened to him. My sympathies.
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Sorry it took so long to reply.
For years I have had a theory about what happened to Leibolt. I
Leibold was on a mission to strafe Moulmein, Burma (now occupied by the enemy) with 6 others on February 26, 1942 from Rangoon. He never returned, and there was a search for him fir one hour. It is 87 miles from Rangoon to Moulmein. A month later on March 24 Bob Neale led a flight of 6 from Kunming, on a retaliatory raid to Chiengmai, Thailand. After the raid they headed for headed for home. That’s when Billy McGarry’s plane, being hit had to bale out. The next is an excerpt from the first AVG book, “The Flying Tigers, “ by Russell Whelan, 1942.
“...The ‘revenge’ strafing of Cheingmail had been achieved at a bitter cost. What happened to ‘Black Mac’ McGarry the Tigers were never to learn. The Japs did not broadcast a report of this capture. Weeks later Chinese searching parties ground a body of an American pilot at a point on hundred miles from where a Tomahawk had crashed. Positive identification was not possible.”
Rangoon is 173 miles from Moulmein to Chiengmai. In my mind it is very possible for him to be at that location where the Chinese found and “American” pilot.
I came to my conclusions with the help of Olga’s Journal, Whelan’s book and the help of the mileage charts of the aforementioned mileages.
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Thanks, Bob.  This would certainly give a possible solution to the mystery of Edward Leibolt, the former USAAF P-40 pilot of the 1st Pursuit Squadron who was never found following his bailout due to mechanical problems. 

Ed can be seen in the well-known photo of several "Adam & Eve" pilots (Bond, Brown Rosbert, Leibolt, Louis "Cokey" Hoffman & others) huddled around squadron leaders Sandell (1st) & Olson (3rd) plus Col. Chennault next to a map on the ground.

Did the Chinese bury the unidentifiable remains of the American pilot? 
Tripp

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Sorry not to have posted remembrance for Ed on the 25th Feb ( my birthday ) had just lost my mother but still in my thoughts Ed Leibolt !
Has anyone information about Ed? His character etc?
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The recently released 1940 Census (of April '40) shows Ed Leibolt amongst the many Flying Cadets at Randolph Field, Texas (San Antonio). 

Upon further examination, at least 16 of the Flying Cadets at Randolph and Kelly Fields would be recruited into the American Volunteer Group (AVG).

R.T. Smith's book Tale of a Tiger has information about Ed and my cousin, Maax Hammer.  They were both Army P-40 pilots who had "served in the same pursuit squadron somewhere back east".

Robert M. Smith's book With Chennault in China shows Leibolt in a photo of pilots on page 75.


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Thank you, that\'s most helpful
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Remembering Ed Leibolt

Another year Ed

MIA. But never forgotten

25th February
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Remembering Ed Leibolt

Nearly another year Ed

MIA. But never forgotten

25th February 1942


Edited by trickymicky52 : February 24, 2014, 12:35 am
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Lost, but never forgotten.
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Thanks for the reminder Ed. We will keep him in our thoughts and prayers.
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Remembering;        Ed Leibolt      MIA  Feb. 25 1942
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So sad ....especially to never know what happened.
Beautiful young men cut down in their prime.
War.... we all hate it.
Civilized people that is.
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Remembering Ed. Nearly the 25th once again!

Always in my thoughts.....
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Remembering    Ed Leibolt,    MIA  Feb 25,1942
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Thanks for remembering Ed Leibolt, 1st Squadron "Adam & Eves" pilot lost 26 Feb 1942 near Rangoon.  Ed was a pilot in the Army Air Corps who shipped out to Burma on 24 July 1941 aboard the Bloemfontein (total of 28 AVG aboard) and arrived at the Port of Rangoon aboard the Penang Trader on 15 Sep 1941.  He was a member of the "Bloom Gang".

We are working with the DoD DPAA agency with respect to our "missing Tigers" and hope that someday all will be accounted for.....including Ed Leibolt.

1st Sqdn CO Bob Neale stayed an extra day at Mingaladon Airfield, after ordering a full evacuation of AVG personnel, waiting to see if Ed would return to base.  1 or 2 squadron mates have stated that they knew that Ed was having some trouble---not sure if it was a mechanical problem or battle damage suffered on the mission.  Ed went down and was never heard from again.  Declared KIA shortly thereafter.

RIP AVG Flying Tiger Ed Liebolt.


Tripp


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Ed Leibolt, still in my thoughts MIA 25th February 1942
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Dear AVG Forum members,

Many thanks to the members who have posted many kind comments about our lost Edward J. Leibolt, a Flight Leader with the 1st Squadron "Adam & Eves".  Ed was from Canton, Ohio.

JimBates, marathondon, Trickymicky52, avgbob, worldraft, puailihau, LydiaRossi----Thanks for remembering Ed......MIA, lost on mission 25 Feb 1942.  Later declared KIA.

Just to let you know that, after reviewing our records, I discovered six different threads honoring Ed over the last 6 1/2 years....some with only a few posts.  I have merged them all so that it is much easier for our readers to read the now many posts dedicated to Ed.  This way the other threads are not buried deep in past posts on the Forum.  To those of you who have seen your own threads merged....thank you for understanding how this really helps to bring all memorials to Ed together.


Edited by aaatripp : April 21, 2016, 8:21 am

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Regarding avgbob's theory regarding the discovery (reported in Whelan's book on the AVG) of the remains of an American pilot some 100 miles from the crash site of a P-40-----perhaps the remains were of Thomas J. Cole (from Clayton, MO) who was lost Jan. 30, 1942 on a mission to Moulmein?

Are there any members who have additional information on this topic?



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