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4 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
aaatripp
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At the DPAA FMU (Family Member Update) meeting in Boston, MA yesterday the family briefing indicated that samples were drawn from the 3 sets of AVG remains disinterred at the Punchbowl on 11 April.  These samples have been transferred to the AFDIL (Air Force DNA Identification Lab) for processing-----we are hopeful that positive ID results will be reported in the future to our 3 families.  At this time we are removing "AVG #4" from further consideration, as historical & forensic evidence indicates not AVG.

PLEASE NOTE EXTENSIVE UPDATES TO POST #22 WITH LOST AVG STATUS


Edited by aaatripp : May 15, 2016, 2:36 pm

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4 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
aaatripp
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Posting four State Dept. documents filed by Consuls in both Rangoon, Burma on December 19, 1941 and Kunming, China on March 31, 1942.  These documents are identified as REPORT OF THE DEATH OF AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

FYI, whereas military deaths overseas would be reported via the standard military casualty reporting channels, members of the AVG (while operating on their covert mission as volunteers for the Chinese Air Force as civilians working for CAMCO) were classified as civilians and their deaths abroad would be reported on the official State Dept. document attached for the information and use by our AVG Forum members.

The documents related to AVG Flying Tigers personnel:

1.  John Dean Armstrong -  8 Sep 41 training accident, Toungoo, Burma---recovered, buried.
2.  Maax C. Hammer, Jr. - 22 Sep 41 training accident, Toungoo, Burma---recovered, buried.
3.  Peter W. Atkinson      - 25 Oct 41 training accident, Toungoo, Burma---recovered, buried.
4.  Thomas J. Cole          - 30 Jan 42 combat loss, Moulmein, Burma--MIA/KIA (lost behind enemy lines)


Please note that, on Post #22 A MASTER LIST OF ALL AVG LOST IN THE CBI in this thread, there has been an update to #11 on Tom Cole.




Edited by aaatripp : July 31, 2016, 6:09 pm

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aaatripp
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Dear members of the AVG Forum:

Thank you for your continued interest in the events surrounding the disinterment and identification of the remains of the 3 AVG buried in Toungoo, Burma in 1941.

The families of John Dean Armstrong, Maax C. Hammer, Jr. and Peter W. Atkinson are still awaiting word from DPAA regarding the results of the DNA ID process at the AFDIL lab in Nebraska.  We will announce results on this Forum when they are received.

Meanwhile, some updates have been made to our status list which is found at Post #22 in this thread.




Edited by aaatripp : July 31, 2016, 6:15 pm

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aaatripp
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It has now been 5 months and 9 days since the 3 presumed AVG sets of remains were disinterred at the Punchbowl cemetery in Hawaii on April 11, 2016.

The 3 families still await word from DPAA and the Army Casualty Office regarding the ID process at the DNA ID Lab at Dover.  We remain solidly optimistic that we will ultimately receive word of a positive ID on our AVG family members.

Meanwhile, members of the Atkinson & Hammer families will accompany the AVG Family to the Museum of Aviation at Warner Robins AFB on Thursday to view their Tigers among the 27 AVG Portraits which were commissioned by Wm. Pawley (CAMCO) back in the 40s. 


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aaatripp
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Corrected the date of death to 8 Jan 42 for Ken Merritt.  He was sleeping in a car parked near the edge of the runway at Mingaladon Airfield, Rangoon, Burma.  Peter Wright, 2nd Sqdn, was returning from a night interception mission.

As Wright lowered his landing gear a hydraulic line in the cockpit burst, spraying hydraulic fluid into Wright's eyes.  Partially blinded by the fluid, and with that fluid coating the inside of the canopy Wright wrestled to safely land his P-40.  With the car blacked out, Wright could not see him and the P-40 careened into the car, killing Merritt instantly.

Wright, Tex Hill and Ed Rector had many a sleepless night as they personally battled the memories of Merritt's unfortunate death.



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aaatripp
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It has now been 7 months and 9 days since the 3 presumed AVG sets of remains were disinterred at the Punchbowl cemetery in Hawaii on April 11, 2016.

The 3 families still await word from DPAA and the Army Casualty Office regarding the ID process at the DNA ID Lab at Dover.  We still remain optimistic that we will ultimately receive word of a positive ID of our AVG family members.

Members of the Atkinson & Hammer families joined other AVG Family members in a daytrip to the Museum of Aviation at Warner Robins AFB on Sept. 22nd to view their Tigers among the 27 AVG Portraits which were painted back in the 40s. 

It was an emotional moment for me to be standing in front of the portrait of my cousin, Maax Hammer on that day.......exactly 75 years from the date of his crash in the jungle near Toungoo, Burma.
   

Edited by aaatripp : November 20, 2016, 4:10 pm

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FLASH........!!

As the AVG Flying Tigers Assn. stated to start this thread on April 22, 2014---

The Flying Tigers Association is pleased to announce:

The families of John Dean Armstrong, Maax C. Hammer, Jr. and Peter William Atkinson  have been notified of the positive identification of the remains of their family members who served with the AVG.  (This includes Ms. Mary Margaret Atkinson, baby sister of Pete Atkinson and last living sibling of the 3 AVG)

These are the remains that were recovered from St. Luke's Anglican Church Cemetery by an Army Graves Registration Service team in 1947, processed in Barrackpore, India and later transferred to the Punchbowl Cemetery on Oahu, Hawaii....where they lay for 67 years as Unknowns (X-633, X-634, X-635).  With the help of many contacts from the three families and assistance from JPAC/DPAA personnel at the numerous Family Member Updates (FMU) over the past many years, DPAA was persuaded to disinter 3 of the 4 graves in question on April 11, 2016.  DNA samples were immediately sent to the DNA ID Lab and the families have been anxiously awaiting news of the results for all this time.....now, with happy results.

The three families of Armstrong, Hammer & Atkinson and indeed the entire AVG Flying Tiger Assn. are very grateful for the diligent work of former JPAC SE Asia historian, Mr. Ken Tilley.  Without his professional expertise, dedication to the lost AVG and their families, and his persistence in plowing through a sadly flawed set of JPAC policies & internal procedures this endpoint would likely never have happened.

Xie, Xie Ken....DING HAO!!  (Thank you Ken....Very Good!!  <in Mandarin>)

To the Army Casualty Office, we say thanks to John Gantz and Greg Gardner in the Past Conflicts Repatriation Branch at Ft. Knox, Kentucky.  Their efforts along with other staff members during the FMUs are much appreciated.  Also to Lt. Gen. Michael S. Linnington, USA (Ret.), former Director of DPAA, we thank you and your staff for their efforts and assistance.  Sir, your leadership moved DPAA to the point where these disinterrments were finally possible...thank you!

And to our dear long lost Tigers, we say with affection----

Armie, Maax & Pete--75 years is a long time, but you're comin' home boys!


Edited by aaatripp : January 5, 2017, 12:16 pm

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3 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
LydiaRossi
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Wonderful news!! Many thanks to Tripp Alyn for his diligence in the pursuit of the lost AVG member's remains. And thanks to Ken Tilley for his dedication to solving the mysteries. The FTA is happy and grateful for the work done and for the great results.
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3 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
aaatripp
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Many thanks, Lydia.


ALL:  our Active Working Status Summary is Post #22 on page 2 of this thread.  It has been updated and now shows the ID of the 3 from Toungoo as well as the 12 AVG yet to be returned.  The AVG Flying Tigers Assn. will continue to work with DPAA to locate families of these missing Tigers and to help determine the status and location of their remains.


Edited by aaatripp : January 10, 2017, 3:13 pm

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aaatripp
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MYSTERY----What happened to Tom Cole, Ed Leibolt, Bob Little, Pete Petach & Red Shamblin?? 

We know most of the circumstances of the above combat actions, but welcome additional information...especially related to the disposition of their remains.

Can you help us account for our Lost Tigers?


Also, three AVG pilots (plus CNAC James Browne) lie at CNAC crash sites in China.  Please help us to convince China to open up the sites to DPAA teams to locate & recover the remains of our lost Tigers.


Edited by aaatripp : January 10, 2017, 3:24 pm

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Wow! This is wonderful news for the families and to finally have closure for these heroes..welcome home!!
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3 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
aaatripp
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FLASH ALERT:

For the purpose of aiding the process of finding, identifying and returning these remaining 12 AVG Flying Tigers we are still trying to find members of the families of the following Lost Tigers:

Neil G. Martin
Robert J. Sandell
Frank W. Swartz
John E. Fauth
Thomas Jefferson Cole, Jr.
Edward J. Leibolt
Robert Laing Little
John E. "Pete" Petach
Arnold "Red" Shamblin
John Dean
Allen M. Wright
Einar I. Mickelson

If you have any info which will help us to contact family members please post at this thread or email me directly (aaatripp@gmail.com) OR have them get in touch with us.  The DPAA has this on their radar scope and, though the door for projects in China seems to be temporarily closed, we want to proceed with finding other Tigers and bringing them home to their families....!

As always, the Flying Tigers Association greatly appreciates your interest in preserving the accurate history of the AVG Flying Tigers.


Edited by aaatripp : January 31, 2017, 10:52 am

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3 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
aaatripp
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We've had some luck in locating family members of some of the 12 missing AVG:

Neil G. Martin
Edward J. Leibolt
John E. "Pete" Petach
Arnold "Red" Shamblin
John Dean


We still need help locating and talking with family members of the following Lost AVG from the CBI Theater of WWII:

Robert J. Sandell
Frank W. Swartz
John E. Fauth

Thomas Jefferson Cole, Jr.
Robert Laing Little
Allen M. Wright
Einar I. Mickelson


Any assistance from members of the AVG Forum and AVG community would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!




Edited by aaatripp : March 16, 2017, 9:22 am

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3 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
aaatripp
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PLEASE NOTE:  Post #22 has been updated on our active status list of our Lost AVG to reflect the burials of Maax Hammer and Peter Atkinson with their families in Illinois and West Virginia respectively.  In 5 weeks John Armstrong will be brought home to KS.


R.I.P. Maax and PW. 

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aaatripp
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NOTE:  Post #22 (Activ Status List) has been updated to indicate the burial of John Dean Armstrong and to add details regarding the 3 AVG from Toungoo.

R.I.P.  Maax, P.W. & Armie.....


Thank you!


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