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4 Tigers Found!! 3 AVG in Toungoo could be coming Home!
aaatripp
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Please note today's updates to our Working List of Missing Tigers.

We have confirmed that George McMillan's remains were repatriated to the US and were buried in Arlington Ntl. Cemetery on 12 March 1948.  Many thanks to Kay Cappleman of the Winter Garden Heritage Foundation for her assistance.

This reduces the unaccounted for list to 15.

We continue to work on this list and any information which you can provide would be most appreciated.

WORKING LIST CAN BE FOUND AT POST #22 of this thread.

Tripp

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McMillian Picture and memorial http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McMill an&GSfn=George&GSiman=1&GScid=49269&GRid=14596332&

:angel:  :D
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Thanks for posting this noman.  When we were searching for info on George B. McMillan six months ago he did not come up in Find-a-Grave.  Now it's easy to see why.....the person posting his memorial page used his 14AF rank of LTC as a first name.

I tried to contact the posting member, but they have shut off their message line.  They did an excellent job on researching George McMillan and another member has posted a great photo of him wearing his AVG pin and Chinese Air Force pilot's wings and cover device.  This will aid in the completion of his BIO page on this website.

Tripp


Edited by aaatripp : November 5, 2014, 7:00 am

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Thanks for posting such great picture, noman.  That really shows off the detail for one of the AVG dress uniforms.  Not only that, the text describing his service record really confirms that the AVG personnel were not a "rag tag" group of misfits like some so called historians like to portray them. 

Edited by SilverDollar : November 5, 2014, 3:03 pm

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Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truckload of brains. Author unknown.  Found in a fortune cookie and that's the honest truth.
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aaatripp
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PLEASE NOTE:

Post #25 in this thread was updated today.  There are links to memorial pages for 16 of our Tigers lost in the CBI theater of operations----all links are now active.

In viewing the gravestones of these Tigers you will notice varying inscriptions indicating their duty with the AVG Flying Tigers.


Tripp


Edited by aaatripp : November 5, 2014, 4:24 pm

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Thanks Tripp for the update.  It was very interesting reading. 


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We still have 15 Tigers to account for....this will keep going until we bring all of our
Tigers HOME.....to their families.....to their Country!!


Tripp


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glad to be of help! :angel:

Interesting how his hat insignia is of Republic of China...


Edited by noman : November 6, 2014, 6:04 am
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Absolutely!

True that this covert operation was authorized by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt where the AVG were civilian contractors working for the cover organization, CAMCO.  In the grim reality of the field, there was a very real danger----capture  by the Imperial Japanese Army!  (like Mott, Bishop, McGarry, Alsop & Shamblin)

As a result,  the AVG signed  papers enlisting in the Chinese Air Force- --to afford them protection,  as combatants,  under the Geneva Convention.  Fighting for another country would have precluded their later service in the U.S. military,  as it initially did for Albert" Ajax" Baumler,  the 100th AVG pilot who was denied a passport by the State Dept., since Baumler had flown with the Russians in the Spanish Civil War.  Observance of the Geneva Convention by the Japanese  was problematic at best!

McMillan's AVG uniform has the gold-braided CAF cover device, CAF pilot's wings over his left breast pocket and the famous AVG insignia over his right breast pocket.  On both lapels are aviator insignias.

It should also be pointed out that our publications are titled "American Volunteer Group  - Flying Tigers - Chinese Air Force".

Tripp

Edited by aaatripp : February 5, 2016, 6:16 pm

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Baumler Flew for the Spanish REPUBLICANS, they had DEMOCRATICALLY elected a President, the Church, the Wealthy, and the Military did not like the ELECTED PRESIDENT and revolted.  They were the Spanish Fascist, who were supported by HITLER, and Mussolini.  The REPUBLICANS sought Aid from England and the United States but were denied, when they sought Aid from Russia, it was given.  Because the Russians tried to transfer their Ideology, because the Russians Provided Equipment, and because some Communists fought for the Republicans, they are oft associated with the Russians and Communism.  There were many people who fought for the Republicans including Anarchists.

Painting the Spanish Repubulicans with the "Russian" and "Communists" brush is like painting the AVG with the "Mercenary" brush.  We know that some of the AVG felt a Kinship with China, Tex Hill had been in a Missionary Family. Some had been angered by the news from China, like the "Rape of Nanking" and the MovieTone News Reels filmed by Japanese crewmen as they Bombed Defenseless Chinese Civilians.  Not everyone who flew with the AVG was a Greedy Adventure Seeking Gun for Hire and not everyone who Fought for the Spanish Republicans was a Russian or Communist.


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If I agreed with you, then we'd both be wrong
Here's something that's always brought to my mind when someone calls the AVG, "mercenaries"......I would think that anyone that grew up and lived thru the depression would jump at the chance to make that kind of money, to do, basically, what they were doing, anyway. Even in the early 40s, that was excellent money.
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Don't forget John J Dean, Flight Leader 1st Squadron. He stayed in China to fly for CNAC and was killed on the Hump 11/17/1942. Our family and CNAC Association recruited MIA Recoveries who found the C-47 wreckage near Dali, China. JPAC has told us there is a chance for a Sept 2015 excavation of the site. PLA (China's Peoples Liberation Army) has made a preliminary search this year and approved a JPAC effort. See MIARecoveries.org for search details.
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after posting this message in the Public Discussion thread I was advised to post in this thread.  Tripp responded to this message and I will post a follow-up.

The remains of the Flying Tigers in Toungoo are of great interest but also of interest is the location of the body of Flight Leader John J. Dean on the side of Cangshan Mountain near Dali China.  John was killed Nov. 17, 1942, while flying with China National Aviation Corporation, along with co-pilot James S. Brown, who was my cousin.  Our research and the work of Clayton Kuhles of MIA Recoveries Inc. led us to discover this wreckage site.

If the Flying Tiger Association is in contact with JPAC in efforts to locate the Toungoo Flying Tigers, maybe they can also push for an expedition to the wreckage of Dean's C47 - CNAC flight #60.  Our recent communications and conversations with JPAC and DPMO have indicated a possible expedition in Sept. 2015.  Chinese officials have already done a preliminary search and authorized JPAC to excavate the site. 

Any help you all can give us would be deeply appreciated!
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{after posting about this in the Public Discussion Forum, Tripp responded to me with more about the work your group is doing to bring back the AVGs.  Here is my latest response to move the conversation into this thread.]

Thank you for the swift reply - I will take your recommendation and post my original message in the related thread.

I also appreciate being alerted to the work that has been done by your people and the common interest we have in locating AVGs.  We are very impressed and happy to learn of the progress you all have made in the search for other lost Flying Tigers. 

We've been working with JPAC and DPMO for some time on our case, but have recently been encouraged by the Chinese embassy in Washington, who inform us they have invited JPAC to search for John and Jimmy's C47.    Also the PLA has investigated the area and reported it is suitable for expedition.  So we feel closer than ever, but still recognize that there are many determining factors. 

We will keep you abreast of any progress on our efforts, and look forward to hearing about your successes as well!

Many thanks!
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aaatripp
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Please NOTE the following 12/27 post reported by Forum member R.L. Willett:


"In the JPAC/DPMO briefing held in Orlando last month we learned that
JPAC has scheduled an expedition to Dali, China to excavate the crash
site of CNAC # 60, piloted by John Dean."


We are indeed hopeful that the remains of our Tiger, John Dean, and his co-pilot, James S. Brown, will be found soon.

Tripp

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Edited by aaatripp : December 29, 2014, 9:29 am

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